unknownusername:

twisted:

uakari20:

bottan:

uakari20:

twicebornbacchus:


”If nobody ever killed anyone,then why would we lose sight of the most important things?”

I know this sentence is supposed to be the key to understanding what wish Kamui finally makes, but I have no idea what the hell it means. I don’t mean in a philosophical sense, either.

THANK GOD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE.
This page has irked me for ages.  Because WHAT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN????

Where do I find this page in the manga? /plans on looking it up in German, if nothing else!

This is Vol 18.5 (or 19 - it’s the unfinished volume that got published as a freebie in  some version of 18), ch 5, pg 16.
Fuuma also says almost the exact same thing on Vol 18, ch 5, pg 17.
YOU ARE AWESOME ~<3

Nope. This is still volume 18, its last chapter. In Polish edition it says “If you shouldn’t kill anyone, then why nobody notices the most important thing?”
And neither Karen nor Kamui were sure what did Fuuma mean by that.

The original Japanese is:
「誰も誰かを殺してはいけないなら どうして見失ってしまうんでしょうね 大事なことを」
Which is one of those sentences which is difficult to translate without better context.  The first part is more or less like… ‘If nobody’s allowed to kill anyone’ or ‘If it’s wrong for anybody to kill anyone else’ or… something along those lines.  Then the second bit is ‘Why do we lose sight of what’s important?’
& this is just a theory, but I think what Fuuma’s getting at here is ‘If killing other humans is so immoral, then why do so many people lose sight of their own will to live?’  Which also links back to ideas that are explored in xxxHolic.
Basically that the more you treasure someone, the more important they are to you, & the more you love them, the more you lose sight of your own importance to that person.  It crops up a lot in X: the idea that sacrificing your own life for someone else’s sake isn’t as noble a gesture as it may appear, because the person you left behind will grieve for you.
I was talking about this with my Japanese teacher a while back, & she explained that often in Japanese culture, even now, there are certain circumstances in which death is considered the ‘correct’ or the ‘noble’ option to take, which in her opinion stems back to the historical prevalence of things like ritualistic suicide.  She cited a relatively recent case of a politician who’d been involved in some kind of scandal who then killed himself, & how that was perceived by many as being an appropriate or proportionate course of action.
& I think, given a lot of Fuuma’s remarks & some of the plot developments in the story (I’m gonna assume you all know what I’m talking about here, if not I can cite references later), that X is ultimately going to be a deconstruction or critique of that particular mindset.  We see various characters sacrifice themselves for people they care about, & undoubtedly more will die this way should the story resume, & in each case the characters that are left behind mourn their deaths.  So as readers we’re put in a position where we empathise with that sense of loss, where we can see that in many cases the sacrifice was a futile gesture, & that it’d likely have been better for that character to try to save themselves as well as the people they love then live together.
So I think Fuuma’s role in this is to challenge & test humanity’s will to live.  If humanity, as a whole, has a strong enough will to survive then it will.  If it doesn’t, the earth will be reclaimed by nature.  & I probably need to re-read to make sure that this all adds up, but I think Fuuma’s wish is for Kamui to live.  If Kamui’s wish ultimately ends up being to die, Fuuma would want to be the one to kill him (see: the conversation between Fuuma & Kakyou after Seishirou’s death), but at the moment he’s testing Kamui, trying to goad him into finding that resolve.
Or… something…  Jesus fuck what I am even talking about anymore…p

unknownusername:

twisted:

uakari20:

bottan:

uakari20:

twicebornbacchus:

”If nobody ever killed anyone,then why would we lose sight of the most important things?”

I know this sentence is supposed to be the key to understanding what wish Kamui finally makes, but I have no idea what the hell it means. I don’t mean in a philosophical sense, either.

THANK GOD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE.

This page has irked me for ages.  Because WHAT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN????

Where do I find this page in the manga? /plans on looking it up in German, if nothing else!

This is Vol 18.5 (or 19 - it’s the unfinished volume that got published as a freebie in  some version of 18), ch 5, pg 16.

Fuuma also says almost the exact same thing on Vol 18, ch 5, pg 17.

YOU ARE AWESOME ~<3

Nope. This is still volume 18, its last chapter. In Polish edition it says “If you shouldn’t kill anyone, then why nobody notices the most important thing?”

And neither Karen nor Kamui were sure what did Fuuma mean by that.

The original Japanese is:

「誰も誰かを殺してはいけないなら どうして見失ってしまうんでしょうね 大事なことを」

Which is one of those sentences which is difficult to translate without better context.  The first part is more or less like… ‘If nobody’s allowed to kill anyone’ or ‘If it’s wrong for anybody to kill anyone else’ or… something along those lines.  Then the second bit is ‘Why do we lose sight of what’s important?’

& this is just a theory, but I think what Fuuma’s getting at here is ‘If killing other humans is so immoral, then why do so many people lose sight of their own will to live?’  Which also links back to ideas that are explored in xxxHolic.

Basically that the more you treasure someone, the more important they are to you, & the more you love them, the more you lose sight of your own importance to that person.  It crops up a lot in X: the idea that sacrificing your own life for someone else’s sake isn’t as noble a gesture as it may appear, because the person you left behind will grieve for you.

I was talking about this with my Japanese teacher a while back, & she explained that often in Japanese culture, even now, there are certain circumstances in which death is considered the ‘correct’ or the ‘noble’ option to take, which in her opinion stems back to the historical prevalence of things like ritualistic suicide.  She cited a relatively recent case of a politician who’d been involved in some kind of scandal who then killed himself, & how that was perceived by many as being an appropriate or proportionate course of action.

& I think, given a lot of Fuuma’s remarks & some of the plot developments in the story (I’m gonna assume you all know what I’m talking about here, if not I can cite references later), that X is ultimately going to be a deconstruction or critique of that particular mindset.  We see various characters sacrifice themselves for people they care about, & undoubtedly more will die this way should the story resume, & in each case the characters that are left behind mourn their deaths.  So as readers we’re put in a position where we empathise with that sense of loss, where we can see that in many cases the sacrifice was a futile gesture, & that it’d likely have been better for that character to try to save themselves as well as the people they love then live together.

So I think Fuuma’s role in this is to challenge & test humanity’s will to live.  If humanity, as a whole, has a strong enough will to survive then it will.  If it doesn’t, the earth will be reclaimed by nature.  & I probably need to re-read to make sure that this all adds up, but I think Fuuma’s wish is for Kamui to live.  If Kamui’s wish ultimately ends up being to die, Fuuma would want to be the one to kill him (see: the conversation between Fuuma & Kakyou after Seishirou’s death), but at the moment he’s testing Kamui, trying to goad him into finding that resolve.

Or… something…  Jesus fuck what I am even talking about anymore…p

kassafrassa:

like seriously x/1999 is the actual best i’m sorry i can’t do it justice because CLAMP
howls with despair seishirou and subaru have been my otp since…..the .. dawn of time…………………..


Pretty sure they were my first shounen-ai couple that wasn&#8217;t actually in a strictly shounen-ai work. On that note, fuck I&#8217;m old.

kassafrassa:

like seriously x/1999 is the actual best i’m sorry i can’t do it justice because CLAMP

howls with despair seishirou and subaru have been my otp since…..the .. dawn of time…………………..

Pretty sure they were my first shounen-ai couple that wasn’t actually in a strictly shounen-ai work. On that note, fuck I’m old.